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well fuck.

I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't, so why do I even bother?

Date: 2004-09-10 07:25 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] x-skin.livejournal.com
Clarice? What happened?

Date: 2004-09-10 07:33 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] x-blink.livejournal.com
I invited my parents to the HeliX thing at the end of the month to be nice.

and now Shinobi's pissed b/c they might "cause a problem" at his party. well, I tried to be nice and -fair- by inviting them both, y'know? but if I tell one that the other is going, then they won't come which means NEITHER will be there and then its' like why'd I even bother to invite them in teh first place? and if I say "oops, sorry, can't go after all" they get pissed. and if I only invite one then the other is pissed.

and Shinobi says if they ruin his party we'll have "words". his words don't scare me, but damn! he's the one who said we could invite parents in the first place!
First: I am not pissed. You presume too much.

Second: I am concerned, after reading that your parents and associated steps do not get along, and about your trip home and how smashingly well that went, that your parents might be disruptive. Paul and I have put a lot of work into organizing this event, and possible disruptions that would embarass not only us, but your parents and HeliX itself, are not a part of the evening's intended programming. I've had parties go south before, and it isn't very enjoyable for anyone involved, guest or organizer.

Third: I was not concerned until you and Terry started discussing ways to make them more entertaining. The lack of respect shown both to your family, but to the benefit itself (remember HeliX? This is a party about HeliX), does not raise my expectations for a peaceful evening up very high.

Fourth: If there is a disruption, you and I will have words. A discussion on responsibility, ethics, and respect comes to mind. And I've just given you a great big free shot at me, if you'd care to take it. Might make you feel better.

but it's so easy...why bother?

Date: 2004-09-10 08:11 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] x-blink.livejournal.com

you want me to sit them down and discuss proper behaviour? hell, I'll give you their phone numbers if you want, 'cause they won't listen to me.

and I KNOW it's embarassing, how do you think I feel when they do it? but how can I just leave one set out of something like this either? HeliX is important to me too, and I don't ahve the money to invest in it, btu I still work on it. and I want them to know how important it is.

and Terry and I were being stupid. I'm not going to ply them with liquor to TRY and make them stupid, that is just suicidal on a number of levels. I can't stop their drinking unless there is some Ferguson ban at the bar.

If you have to ask..

Date: 2004-09-10 08:27 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] x-shinobi.livejournal.com
Communicating with your parents is your responsibility, not mine. Mine lays with the benefit, not with your familial troubles.

As to the rest, I'll simply point out the very large "if" I began the statement this post references one more time. If they cause a scene, if they disrupt the benefit, then we will have words. If not, there will be no need for them, and you can go back to dressing Paul's cat in little cat-sized clothing.

Re: If you have to ask..

Date: 2004-09-10 08:34 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] x-blink.livejournal.com
sounds like we only have family problems when we talk to them.

Date: 2004-09-10 08:44 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] x-shinobi.livejournal.com
That may well be true for you, I'll grant..

..but I have a great deal of problems with my family, whether I speak to them (or, well, him) or not. The perils of having a wealthy, megalomaniacal race traitor as a father. No "out of sight, out of mind" for some of us, dearie.
Shinobi old son, turn it down a notch. If Clarice's parents cause a scene at your party, then it's them that someone should be having words with, not Clarice. Or do you seriously see nothing wrong with saying "everyone can invite their families, unless they're a bit awkward/not photogenic?"

Besides, you've hired bouncers, haven't you?

Frankly, if we're inviting relatives, you all to look fucking grateful that I haven't suggested that my Dad turn up. Or that Romany come and bring her boyfriend - the grey-ish one that leaves bits of ectoplasm behind him...

Consider the notch turned, cap'n.

Date: 2004-09-10 08:57 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] x-shinobi.livejournal.com
Well, of course someone'd be having words with them, too. In her original post, though, it sounded like she'd invited them for the express purpose of seeing some tooth-and-claw hissyfits between them taking place. That would warrant someone talk to her. But, again, if no ruckus ensues, no words will ensue. Easy peasy.

At such a mutant-centric event like this? Of course there are bouncers. Hell, nearly half the attendees could double as bouncers in an emergency, by my reckoning.

Aww.. I'd love it if Rom could come, though. And he was a nice gent. The ectoplasm looked like his own personal lava lamp, it was neat.
I'm going to second Shinobi's assessment of the initial statement. Both of Clarice's parents are welcome. However, it's not fair to anyone if she misinforms them.

If they're going to be childish and not show up if they know the other may be there, I'm very sorry but again, it's on their heads. If they cause a scene, it's on their heads. If she manipulates them into coming - and I'm sorry, chere, but your post did make it sound like you did /deliberately/ neglect to inform them that the other was coming - then that /is/ her problem.

I wouldn't put my exes Anton and Simon in the same state, much less in the same house, and I certainly wouldn't invite them both to a party without telling them that the other would be there. I can't control how they behave but there's no need to invite disaster.

Mr Lee is taking care of our security, there will be staff on hand. People are welcome to come, no matter what. Awkwardness and attractiveness are irrelevant. Setting your parents up for a public scene because you're angry with one or both of them - not so irrelevant.
lovers are different than parents - lovers don't ahve kids in common for hte rest of their lives.

and I am going to tell them, now. just...not yet. not until they're here and can't leave.
You're right, they don't. But parents seem to be notorious for not thinking of their children sometimes, especially in circumstances like yours, which makes them just two people with their own agendas who really need a smack if they can't get over themselves.

I hope this all works out, Clarice, one way or another. Let me know if you need anything.
Good call, kiddo. I know you want them to come, but setting them up to have a public catfight isn't doing you or anyone else any favours. Let them know the other is going to be there - there's more at stake than their idiocy.
I know (now).

1). no getting them purposefully drunk (can I get myself semi-drunk? just in case?...oh I know, I'm underage so don't even think about it)
2). tell them BEFORE they show up to the party that the other will be there. so an hour before.
3). is there a 3?
1) Glad we see eye to eye on that one. And yes, no plying your parents and their partners with booze, either.

2) I'm not sure an hour is long enough for them to calm down, but if you're that set on them both turning up, so be it. I can lend a hand with calming detail should it be required.

3) There's always a 3.
1). I'm not worried about their partners.

2). thank you

3). I thought of a 3!! but then I forgot. I think it had to do with me yelling at them for being morons.
1) Then no plying your parents with booze. Can't stress this one enough.

2) You're welcome. I may regret it, but you're welcome.

3) Wait until after the party, please. Scenes are scenes, and I have no doubt your parents deserve some kind of talking to, but there's a time and a place.
3). yes. after the party. I can't believe you'd think I'd do it beforehand! oh wait....nevermind. I'm still not doing it beforehand though.

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